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Old 04-14-2012, 12:02 AM   #26
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So what's the solution?

a) Vote for Obama who we know cares not for this country, guns and the constitution.

b) Vote for Rommey who you suspect may not be 100% pro gun

c) Not vote and in effect give the election to Obama by default because the pro Obama people will be voting for him no matter what.

d) is there a d?
Yup, this is how I see it as well. It really just comes down to a) or b) because one should never give up their right to vote and there really isn't a d).

Ironically, even though Romney may not be the poster child for gun rights, it is "first-term ness" that helps to keep him in check, at least in the near future. The Chicago-mafia boss, on the other hand, by virtue of a second term, is freed from his self-imposed electoral chains, making him more "flexible" in negotiating away any missile defense advantage we may have with the Russians (thank God for open microphones) and empowering him to lay waste to a whole host of our remaining freedoms, not the least of which are gun rights.

Take a look at the video on this page. His supporters know it, he knows it, and anyone who isn't living under a rock knows that in a second Obama term they release the Kraken! That is why the original video was taken down. It's still a bit too early for the less informed to become aware of his plans for the next term. Obama scrubs video from website.
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Romney...Obama "light"....*ahem*. Anyway. Romney gleefully signed the Massachusetts anti "assault weapon" ban. Gleefully. In any case, while our eyes are diverted to this issue...we have people wanting to include "sniper rifles" into the same class as machine guns. What is a "sniper rifle"? "It has the following "characteristics" (sound familiar?) centerfire, bolt action, heavy barrel, free floated barrel, other modifications to increase accuracy, able to kill someone at 100 yards or farther." Anything larger than ".22 caliber". I guess they mean .22 rimfire, as what I read did not specify. Only our pitiful congress can run interference...if they had cajones. Get ready boys.

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So what's the solution?

a) Vote for Obama who we know cares not for this country, guns and the constitution.

b) Vote for Rommey who you suspect may not be 100% pro gun

c) Not vote and in effect give the election to Obama by default because the pro Obama people will be voting for him no matter what.

d) is there a d?
D) Apply the Constitution and leverage your state against the aggression and usurpation of power by the federal government.

Second Amendment: http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/null...s-freedom-act/

Barring enforcement of bogus, un-Constitutional federal "laws": http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/null...t-legislation/

Breaking down the underpinnings of the federal powers (usurped), their money: http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/null...tax-funds-act/

The President, nor Congress, nor the Supreme Court, nor any level or aspect of the federal government, or its agencies, have the authority to restrict or bar private firearm ownership and use. So, there is no "savior" on any of these levels who can "save" or "safeguard" our Rights, specifically the Second Amendment protected Rights.

This protection can ONLY come from the People, utilizing their representative governments to ensure these Rights are protected. In our current state of affairs (with CA, MA, IL, and a few other states excepted) it is the federal government which is infringing upon our Rights, thus it is the States which the People must use to protect themselves from this incursion.

As you can see from my first link, 8 states have PASSED into law, the Firearm Freedom Act. 30+ have introduced it. So the People are on the proper track in fighting the federal abuse of power and usurpation of powers.

The "proper track" is not to hope, wish, pray, beg, plea with some "all powerful" dictator with the title of US President, to "please, please, please, let us peasants have firearms."

Not understanding the proper roles and positions of power within our country is exactly why we are in the mess we are today, in this country. But this tide is turning, and doing so rather quickly.

Romney will afford us more time to better coordinate the education and action of the People, through their states, to turn back the usurpation of power by the feds. He will NOT be an answer, but rather less of a hinderance than Obowma. No one is the answer, not even Paul.

The answer lays with the owners of this country, that is "We the People", and until they are educated enough, and motivated enough, to exercise ownership responsibilities, the twits in D.C. will be more than happy to continue to usurp powers. (BTW, it does not take a majority of the People to stop the abuse of the federal government/agencies, it just takes some, and a good bit of determination....many examples are abound!)
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If you are even thinking about voting "mo'bama" you should have your head examined.
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Frailer speaks the truth, as usual. I'll be voting R. lesser of two evils.
Aye, same here.
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I honestly feel like Obomination is more respectable than Rommey because at least you know where the tyrant stands on things. Rommey you have no clue its a dice roll. I could get in and the first thing he do is ban all firearms, or do nothing. Chances are he will be voted in, there will be another war we dont want, need, or can afford, and things wont get any better because the powers that be want us poor, stupid, un armed, and party loyal.
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I honestly feel like Obomination is more respectable than Rommey because at least you know where the tyrant stands on things. Rommey you have no clue its a dice roll. I could get in and the first thing he do is ban all firearms, or do nothing. Chances are he will be voted in, there will be another war we dont want, need, or can afford, and things wont get any better because the powers that be want us poor, stupid, un armed, and party loyal.
There is little doubt that Stalin was a MUCH BETTER DEAL than Franklin Roosevelt.... Both Communist, but with Stalin, you really knew where he stood, and what to expect. Roosevelt had to play silly games like stacking the courts, arm twisting the Congress and relying upon a sympathetic media.

The people of the Great Depression, and then the war, in the US were so bothered and in such turmoil as to have to endure rationing, shortages, 25% unemployment (only for a very short period of time), and soup kitchens.

The people of Soviet Russia had the knowledge of being starved to death (only 20 million or so), death camps, snitching neighbors, family separations, more death, then there were forced marches with the Nazis in the front, Soviet machine guns in the rear......But at least they knew what to expect....no flip flopping or dice rolls for them.

There is little doubt that the near 50 million that Stalin killed (and their families) were comforted by the knowledge that they could plan on what Stalin was going to do and did not need to bother themselves with other options.

Yep, Obowma is a much better choice.
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Oops. We made it to the Nazis.

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Couldn't agree more with this. I can't imagine after the last four years anybody voting for Obama. I'd rather vote for O.J. Simpson.
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Couldn't agree more with this. I can't imagine after the last four years anybody voting for Obama. I'd rather vote for O.J. Simpson.
At least he'll do his own dirty work.
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